[SDL] CMake gurus...

Sik the hedgehog sik.the.hedgehog at gmail.com
Sat Mar 23 20:57:46 PDT 2013

Wouldn't the situation end up being exactly the same on Linux too?
CMake isn't installed by default either, and if I recall correctly the
idea is to ditch autotools there (though yes, I can vouch for the
command line version of CMake being easier to get working).

It seems like the problem here is teaching programmers how to use
CMake altogether.

2013/3/24, Ryan C. Gordon <icculus at icculus.org>:
>> Ideally we would use something make-ish that was generic enough to act
>> as both a build system, AND a configure system, but I don't recall any
>> logic languages being standard installs anywhere.
> Ideally we want Windows people to find a Visual Studio project that
> matches their version of Visual Studio, double-click it, and build the
> library.
> Right now we're maintaining several .vcproj files for different
> versions, and almost universally, some subset of them fails to get
> updated when we change a project setting of add/remove files. Tests are
> missing from many of them, etc.
> XCode is slightly better about this, but still suffers from the fact
> that it's not necessarily our primary way to build SDL (even on Mac, I'm
> using the configure script, for example), so it isn't well-maintained
> either.
> If not CMake, something that allows us to do what CMake does is really
> really interesting: we maintain one text file, it spits out projects for
> lots of tools. But we really don't want the Windows/Mac experience to be
> like this:
> - Download SDL sources.
> - There's no Visual Studio project?!
> - Read the readme, find out I'm supposed to use CMakeLists.txt (which is
> the worst naming choice ever, btw).
> - Download CMake.
> - Install CMake.
> - Run CMake-gui.
> - Maybe understand I was supposed to point it at the SDL root directory.
> - Maybe understand I should set the output directory somewhere outside
> of the source tree.
> - Maybe understand that the poorly-built dropdown list actually scrolls,
> and my compiler is, in fact, supported.
> - Click configure (maybe twice).
> - Generate project files.
> - Launch Visual Studio with the project files.
> - Compile.
> What I'd _rather_ they do is this:
> - Download SDL sources.
> - Double-click the correct .sln file in the "VisualStudio" directory,
> which we generated with CMake when packaging up the sources.
> - Compile.
> I understand there are technical limitations that prevent what I'm
> describing right now, but it drives me nuts that these are hand-waved
> away as social limitations ("That's not how CMake is meant to be used"
> is just a bug report that no one is yet willing to fix).
> --ryan.
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