[SDL] SDL 1.3 Windows Solution

Wed Aug 19 14:35:47 PDT 2009

Hi, gents,

I am an avid programmer, but live in the middle of nowhere ("the
sticks"), and I can tell you, anything over 5megs isn't worth
downloading.  If we're trying to get a different build format, you'd
be better off trying to get Code::Blocks or Dev-Cpp, which are
reasonable downloads on all networking plateaus (dialup, mid/hi speed,
etc).

All I know is the population that has hi speed is considerably less
than the population with dial up.  And most people aren't going to
shell out $200/month for a satellite.  Or the $100 for a usb-dongle
for using the internet via cell networks.

-Alex

On 8/19/09, GMScribe <ali_lowe at sky.com> wrote:
>
> Ouch, though I do understand where you're coming from. The download is
> around
> 83MB (off the top of my head guess), much smaller than a full VS, it's why I
> actually chose to use it over VS. The spec requirements are no different
> from VS2005. No large changes other than a better compiler and plays
> slightly better with Windows Vista (and I assume Windows 7).
>
> I remember having 56k dial-up myself trying to download a few hundred meg. I
> think it used to take up to a day and a download manager (due to D/C) to
> grab 250MB.
>
> Though these days you do at least have portable satellite, 3G/3.5G and WiMax
> alternatives if you live far out. You can pick-up at least one almost
> anywhere in the world.
>
>
> Bob Pendleton wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM, GMScribe<ali_lowe at sky.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> VC2008 Express is freeeeee and fairly small. Does everything full VS2008
>>> does
>>> minus some advanced features that when modifying SDL, you're unlikely to
>>> need. Once SDL is compiled into a .dll then it doesn't really matter what
>>> version you use with it.
>>
>> What you said is only true if you have a fast line with no transfer
>> cap. The actual download is just for the installer which then goes
>> over the net to get the rest of the package. How many days does it
>> take to install over a dial up line? How much hardware does it require
>> to run when you do get it?
>>
>> It know just how hard it is to remember that the world is not like
>> your back yard. I made a comment just like yours once and was
>> contacted off list by a fellow who lived only a couple of hundred
>> miles from where I live in Central Texas. He pointed out that where he
>> lived the fastest Internet connection he could get was about 20kbps
>> dial up. He was lucky to own an old PC. There were no computer stores,
>> or book stores, Internet cafes, or libraries near where he lived. Hey,
>> even folks living in big US cities don't always have access to things
>> many of us take for granted.
>>
>> A lot of the world is a lot like east Texas, lots of people spread
>> over a very wide and mostly empty space with little access to what we
>> high tech city folk consider normal.
>>
>> Bob Pendleton
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Phuoc Can Hua wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Me too.
>>>> I don't have many projects. But I'm happy that I don't need a new
>>>> compipiler when I want to try new SDL.
>>>>
>>>> _/\__/\__/\__/\__/\__/\_
>>>> www.huaonline.com
>>>> My Homepage is my Castle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Wed, 19/8/09, jeroen clarysse <jeroen.clarysse at telenet.be> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: jeroen clarysse <jeroen.clarysse at telenet.be>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SDL] SDL 1.3 Windows Solution
>>>>> To: "A list for developers using the SDL library. (includes
>>>>> SDL-announce)" <sdl at lists.libsdl.org>
>>>>> Received: Wednesday, 19 August, 2009, 1:54 AM
>>>>> I'm rather happy that the old format
>>>>> is still available... I have no prob with including both,
>>>>> but please keep the old one alive for a while... I'm still
>>>>> on VC 2003 on several projects that need waaaaaaay back
>>>>> compatibility :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Aug 2009, at 17:52, GMScribe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi guys,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is there any reason why we're still using VC2005 as
>>>>> the format for the
>>>>> > windows SDL 1.3 project? Only that it's a bit annoying
>>>>> to have to convert
>>>>> > the project each time I do a fresh checkout from the
>>>>> SVN. Given that VC2008
>>>>> > Express is free I feel as though it may as well be in
>>>>> the current format.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Many thanks.
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