[SDL] SDL.r file problems

Wed Jan 2 07:38:00 PST 2002

Someone mentioned that the problem I had compiling with the binary devel 
distribution for Mac was that the .r file was supposed to be multiple 
lines while the MPW was complaining that line 1 was too long and locking 
up. I examined both SDL.r and SIZE.r. SIZE.r is just fine. SDL.r looks 
like I opened a unix text file on Windows - all one line with a bunch of 
squares mixed in with the text. This is the same in the source 
distribution. This is from downloading both binary and source with 
Mozilla and IE to make sure my download agent wasn't causing the 
problem. Anyone else have this problem? If so, this is a bug report... 
:) I guess this could cause SDL or test apps not to compile correctly?

Cheers,
Mike

Randall Leeds wrote:

> On Wednesday, January 2, 2002, at 01:11 AM, Mike Vanecek wrote:
> 
>> Has OS-X implimented a more Unix like standardization of locations? 
>> Like /usr/lib and /usr/include and so forth?
> 
> 
> 
> Indeed it has!  In fact, there are a /usr/lib and /usr/include folders!
> MacOS X installs as an option at install time the BSD Unix Subsystem
> which is recommended for developers.  It contains all the basic development
> tools you find on your familiar linux.  However, if you want you can also
> use ProjectBuilder which is a very nice graphical development environment
> that apple provides for free if you register with the Apple Developer 
> Connection
> at their website.  But if makefiles are what you like, you're welcome to 
> use them.
> 
> In fact, it's rather nice running MacOS X because when things don't say 
> that they
> work on MacOS, but that do do work on Linux, you can often download them 
> anyway
> and compile them!  YAY!
> 
> There's even an XonX project that helps users set up XFree86 to run 
> along with OSX.
> I did some tooling with it and got it to work, but slowly.  I had GNOME 
> running, sort of :)
> 
> MacOS X opens a whole new world for mac users.
> 
> -Randall
> 
>>
>> I am amused by a workaround that the OGL headers implimented to 
>> facilitate more crossplatform compatibility with Mac - they named 
>> "GL.h" "GL/GL.h" with the forward slash so that "#include <GL/GL.h>" 
>> would resolve correctly. Perhaps we can take a cue and do something 
>> similar - copy "SDL.h" to "SDL/SDL.h" so that either/or would be 
>> available. The CIncludes and Shared Libraries directories seem to be 
>> the logical homes for the SDL resources - that way your make files are 
>> simpler and don't have to be edited by other Mac users with their own 
>> folder placement - perhaps this can be recommended in documentation?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>> Randall Leeds wrote:
>>
>>> You're not required to put the libraries anywhere.  I used SDL
>>> on classic for 1.0 and 1.1, not the most recent release.
>>>
>>> You put the libraries and the headers wherever you want but
>>> make sure to pop open the Makefile.  The easiest thing to do
>>> from my experience was to just use the Create Build Commands
>>> (or something like that) in one of the menus and set up an application
>>> like that.  Also, make sure that you Get Info on the app or set it up
>>> some other way so that you give your app plenty of RAM if you get it
>>> to compile.
>>>
>>> My directory structure was this when I did my building, maybe the SDL
>>> libs have changed:
>>> Project Dir
>>>     Libraries
>>>         SDL
>>>         SDLmain.o
>>>     Headers
>>>         All The SDL Headers
>>>
>>> Then just pop open the Makefile, which if you stare at it long enough
>>> you can figure out how it all works, and add a couple lines along 
>>> with all
>>> the other libraries to link SDL and SDLmain.o.
>>> Also, link the opengl libraries, I think they all start with OpenGL
>>> and should be in the Shared Libraries folder with the MPW release,
>>> either that or download the SDK from Apple.
>>>
>>> I apologize if all of this is useless though, because my experience
>>> with SDL on MacOS Classic is 1.0-1.1.  By the time 1.2 came out I
>>> had upgraded to X.
>>>
>>> -Randall
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 09:18 PM, Mike Vanecek wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll give that a go again - however, when compiling graywin from the 
>>>> SDL_devel I got an error that the first line of SDL.r was too long 
>>>> then the entire system just locked down. Ouch - twice. I have a 
>>>> habit of compiling as much of everything I can on Linux and I was 
>>>> following that habit after the binary devel locked up the system. I 
>>>> figured either I got a corrupt SDL.r file, or that I goofed up the 
>>>> installation - so I went with the good ol' "compile it myself" 
>>>> routine and hoped I could fill in the holes in the README.MacOS. Not.
>>>>
>>>> You put the GL headers in the CIncludes, right? And the libraries in 
>>>> the Shared Libraries folder? Did you also do the same with SDL? All 
>>>> includes in the CIncludes and the libs in the Shared Libraries 
>>>> folder? It'd be nice if there was a map or some documentation for 
>>>> this...At least with Unix the directories for the stuff is clearcut 
>>>> and easy and there's more documentation than you can shake a stick 
>>>> at. If I can figure all this out, perhaps I can put out a 
>>>> Howto...unless there's already one?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Randall Leeds wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's certainly possible to use SDL on Classic MacOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> For a long time I was programming SDL with MacOS 8.6.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I did not compile the library myself.  I just downloaded
>>>>> the compiled package from the SDL site.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are right to use MPW though - my problem for a long time was
>>>>> that CodeWarrior wasn't cooperating.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may want to try downloading the pre-built SDL if you don't need
>>>>> to make any modifications and it SHOULD work.  Also, you might try
>>>>> upgrading OS 9, or at least 8.6 if you still can't get it working, 
>>>>> because
>>>>> it worked for me on 8.6.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Randall
>>>>>
>>>>>
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